Carl Youngblood at Mormon Matters on Demythologizing
2015.12.12
IMAGE: PHOTO OF CARL YOUNGBLOOD
The Mormon Matters podcast recently featured Carl Youngblood, vice president of the Mormon Transhumanist Association, as well as association member Jordan Harmon. With host Dan Wotherspoon and Derrick Clements, they discussed the positive spiritual effects of disenchantment and demythologizing.
Here is the description of the podcast episode from Mormon Matters:
“Throughout our life cycle, we are all called to reexamine the truths, values,
beliefs, and stories that suggest key purposes for living and give meaning to
the things we do. In most areas of life, when we see cracks in our
understanding or problems in the way we do things we usually find somewhat
gentle ways to admit the issues that need addressing and to cast about for
resources and new views that might aid or drive the needed changes. However,
when it comes to the things we sense as life’s biggest value giver or most
important stories or framings, what theologian Paul Tillich calls our “Ultimate
Concern,” admitting that shifts are needed is much more difficult. And because
for most of us, our Ultimate Concern involves God, anxiety about death or
salvation, and other elements of life with seemingly very big consequences
should we be wrong—the stakes are raised even higher. The problem is, however,
these things of Ultimate Concern are not tangible in the way that much of life
is. We can’t see them clearly or use any of our other physical senses to help
us articulate them. Instead, we need metaphors and symbols and rituals and
community dialogue to continually “point toward” them, to direct our attention
to their looming presence even in their physical absence. Unfortunately, once
we begin relying on these symbols and metaphors, quite naturally our minds
begin to forget that these are not the things of Ultimate Concern themselves
but only directors and encouragers, stories and practices that are to aim our
attention to concerns and energies that lie beyond themselves.“
"All of us can recognize this danger, and we have likely experienced it
ourselves. Furthermore most religions also understand this, and some better
than others actually build in practices or have frequent conversations that
talk about how we can end up focusing on the symbol rather than what it
symbolizes, the literalness of a story versus its narrative and
transformational power. These practices and conversations remind us to try to
experience fresh the Divine or these Ultimate values and concerns, to allow our
symbols and myths to “break” and remind us, again and again, that they were
never intended to substitute for experiencing the things they point to. In
these religions, we can find deliberate attempts to “disenchant” their
followers with the symbols and old stories, sometimes in shocking ways, so they
won’t focus on the wrong things. Or they will talk about the important role of
“de-mythologizing,” of reminding ourselves that the powerful stories of our
traditions, though often based upon real events or experiences of founders and
others, also have mythic elements that must be sorted through. Sometimes the
sorting leads to peeling back the layers to find an original core set of
energies that gave and give life to the tradition; in other cases the process
is to embrace the mythic elements even more thoroughly as a way of sending
followers out of day-to-day consciousness and into more imaginative realms (but
also ways of thinking that can allow the inrush of new insight and fresh
transformative energies).
“This two-part podcast features Derrick Clements, Jordan Harmon, and Carl
Youngblood, along with Mormon Matters host Dan Wotherspoon, exploring the
difficulties but also the rich blessings of becoming disenchanted, and/or
entering into conscious demythologizing. The first part and a bit of the second
focus mostly on how this process operates (and could operate better) at a
personal level. The second part then folds into a discussion of how Mormonism
as an institution might work more effectively to move us into the more powerful
experiential realms that can follow upon “brokenness”—whether of symbols,
myths, or our hearts. The episodes contain fascinating ethnographic material
from Hopi and other cultures, strong exegesis from Paul Tillich and other
thinkers, and the participants’ own life stories and experiences with these
processes."